Talk:Capillary waves

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Thermal capillary waves

Hello, now I'm writing the same article for Russian wikipedia. While I was deducing the expression for mean square amplitude I found my result to be two times less than common one (that is in Molecular Theory of Capillarity and refered to in many articles). Could you please tell me weather I am right or not.

I claim that the mean energy of each mode is kBT rather than 12kBT. That's because each mode has to degrees of freedom Amn and Bmn, since each wave is Amncos(2πLmx+2πLny)+Bmnsin(2πLmx+2πLny), with the energy of each mode proportional to Amn2+Bmn2. This obviously lead to the mean energy of each mode to be kBT. That was the real notation and now lets turn to the complex notation.

Each mode with the fixed wave vector is presented as hkexp(ik⋅τ), k=(2πLm,2πLn),m,n∈Z — wave vector, τ — (x,y) vector. The energy is proportional to hk*hk (indeed it is Ek=σL22(2ac2+k2)hk*hk). According to equipartition:

⟨xi∂H∂xj⟩=δijkBT,

we obtain:

⟨hk∂∂hk[σL22(2ac2+k2)hk*hk]⟩=⟨hk[σL22(2ac2+k2)hk*]⟩=⟨Ek⟩=kBT.

And again we get the same result. What do you think of it? Is there a mistake? Please help, I'm really stuck with it. Grigory Sarnitskiy. 91.76.179.101 19:45, 30 January 2009 (CET)